The inclusion girls

[d22249]

It will be interesting to see how Brad interacts with Azumi. How he gets the erotic part of his week with her.

Brad has a firm foundation of history with Emily, Faith, Natalie and even Jasmine. It's easy to believe that his relationship with one or more of them gets sexual during his erotic week. But he just met Azumi. They have no history. Yet, she is now romanceable character, which implies sex and possibly a relationship in a very short period of time. And since it was revealed that starting Friday night Brad will be with three different women from the five we've met, he has basically Wednesday and Thursday nights to woo Azumi and get into her pants. Not a lot of time.

[JFR]

... he has basically Wednesday and Thursday nights to woo Azumi and get into her pants. Not a lot of time.

Agreed. It seems he will really have to make up some time with her. The obvious way he could quickly get into something with Azumi would be through the 3-some that he is trying to promote, using Natalie as the "bait" to get to Azumi.

On the other hand, we have seen some little glimpses of Azumi that suggest she may be a bit lonely and vulnerable but is hiding it. It is possible that meeting a nice guy who is honest and sensitive might be such a new experience for her that her defenses crumble quickly. With her history, Azumi may have never met a guy who actually cares about the girls, beyond just trying to get into their pants. When he tells her "your feelings matter, too" and later refuses to discuss what happened with Natalie, saying "She'll have to tell you, its not my place to say," he might be showing her a kind of guy she didn't know existed and bring out what little innocent side of her might be remaining under the brassy, super-confident facade.

Or maybe that is a little too romantic and touchy-feely for a sex game.

[d22249]

Or maybe that is a little too romantic and touchy-feely for a sex game.

I'm interested to see how Wolfschadowe handles the porn game trope of meet and fuck, which is essentially what happens to the fuckable characters who are not Emily, Faith, Natalie or Jasmine.

[JFR]

... I'm interested to see how Wolfschadowe handles the porn game trope of meet and fuck, which is essentially what happens to the fuckable characters who are not Emily, Faith, Natalie or Jasmine.

That will be interesting. I honestly feel that he will handle it a little more circumspectly than the usual "Nice to meet you - let's fuck" that seems to be the norm for this genre. Wolf has done a pretty good job there. The only quick sex so far has been with characters with whom Brad has already established a close relationship. Emily, Faith and Natalie are already friends and/or have an on-going flirtation with him. And some alcohol is involved.

Jasmine is a little more problematic since they have a work relationship but not much of a personal one. I suspect that story path will hinge on her up-until-now somewhat hidden crush. She may decide to go for it and reveal her attraction to overcome his natural reticence, which is based on the fact that she is so young, an employee and has a history of dealing - er - aggressively with sexual harassment. She flirts but he has to consider all the rest and think twice before returning those flirtations and perhaps acting on them.

As for the others, outside of his existing small circle of female friends, he will have to move fast or else have some sort of "magic mind control" used on him to move things along quickly. At this point, I am just anxious to even see Lorien, Muirgheal and Sere without her disguise. I have some pretty high - probably unrealistically so - hopes there.

On another note, have you noticed that you and I are almost the only ones with opinions on these things? That's too bad. It would be interesting to hear from some others. Folks, you don't have to be a patron to join the conversation! It is fun and helps pass the time while waiting for the next episode.

[Doran]

At this point I almost have blind faith in Wolfschadowe, that he will do the characters justice and create realistic paths towards intimacy with the new women.

... As for the others, outside of his existing small circle of female friends, he will have to move fast or else have some sort of "magic mind control" used on him to move things along quickly. ...

I don't necessarily think Brad has to do all the seducing by himself, the women in this game all have their own desires and agendas. Maybe one of the women will try to seduce Brad for her own reasons, another might just want to have some "fun" and bond with Brad over it.

Regarding Jasmine: I think it is pretty obvious that she has a crush on Brad, if you analyse a certain passage, where she mentions 4 possible love interests for Brad.

[JFR]

... Regarding Jasmine: I think it is pretty obvious that she has a crush on Brad, if you analyse a certain passage, where she mentions 4 possible love interests for Brad.

That, along with the way she flirts with him - the sexy clothes, the "down-shirt" looks, the butt wiggle almost in his face, the way she sits on his desk with legs open and then squeezes past him at the desk. She is flirting but the question is if she will make good on the "promises." She is pretty young. Young girls like to flirt with older men but may not be ready to take it further. I expect she will become somewhat available but we'll have to see to what extent.

[Doran]

... I expect she will become somewhat available but we'll have to see to what extent

I am also not sure how far their relationship can develop in season 1. Maybe she is already open to be asked out for a dinner, maybe she still needs to establish more trust towards Brad on a personal level and just increases her flirting (if that is possible^^).

My confidence, that Brad can enter an intimate romantic relationship with Jasmine in Season 3, however, is pretty high. As far as I understood every character has the chance to appear in 2 out of 3 seasons.

The only thing we can be certain of is, that it will be awesome!

[Shepard]

... Regarding Jasmine: I think it is pretty obvious that she has a crush on Brad, if you analyse a certain passage, where she mentions 4 possible love interests for Brad.

She is flirting but the question is if she will make good on the "promises." She is pretty young. Young girls like to flirt with older men but may not be ready to take it further. I expect she will become somewhat available but we'll have to see to what extent.

I agree with you. When I played the Jasmine parts, I did think about the possibility for Jasmine being "flirty-but-not-flirty" just for the sake of it, as it would fit a girl her age.

[Wolfschadowe]

I'm loving the discussion here. Glad to see there's interest in what's coming along. I hesitate to talk much on threads like this because of the high spoiler risk, or accidental misdirection that may come, since my words and opinions seem to carry a bit of weight for some reason.

However, I read every single message posted on this forum, and I really do enjoy reading these types of threads, especially when we start getting more participation on them. Thanks JFR and d22249 for shaking a few others out of the rug!

A few things to keep in mind.

• Every romanceable woman has roughly a 5 day storyline. Some branches are a day shorter or longer, but at least 1 branch for each girl is 5 days.
• Probably the most important thing to remember: When I was looking to cut the size of the game from the original group of about 12 women, I didn't cut the best storylines to pare it down to 5. I kept the 5 best groups of stories. That means that Jasmine, Azumi, and Muirgheal were not the top five story-lines. I think they're still good, otherwise I'd never offer them as an inclusion. Still, it pains me a bit to say it, but their stories are probably about a step down from the others.
• While it's not a majority, It's still surprisingly common for real people to have sex on the first date. It's also common for many of those same people to regret it the next day...

[JFR]

... When I was looking to cut the size of the game from the original group of about 12 women ...

12 ?!?!

Lord, man, we know you are pretty ambitious in this project but 12 seems insane. Could you have been even crazier early on than now?

Not to mention that 12 women in one week would certainly be the death of poor Brad.

[Mik]

Maybe Brad get a very urgent assignment in the late afternoon at the office when only Jasmine is still there with him.
So they've to watch surveillance cam tapes all night long together...

P.S. Oh, and I'm new here....waving hello to everyone...

[JFR]

... Oh, and I'm new here....waving hello to everyone...

Welcome to the madness.

[Wolfschadowe]

P.S. Oh, and I'm new here....waving hello to everyone...

Welcome to the forum Mik!

Not to mention that 12 women in one week would certainly be the death of poor Brad.

Luckily(?) for Brad, even with the original five, it wasn't possible to woo them all in a single play-through.

[Doran]

... It's still surprisingly common for real people to have sex on the first date. It's also common for many of those same people to regret it the next day...

And thus it is on to us once again, the player, to find the best possible aftermath, turning a daring step into a positive memory!^^

Speaking of best aftermath:
Out of all romanceable women we have been introduced to, the fate of Azumi intrigues me the most. I can't bare to see good people suffering, even if she handles her regrets well and doesn't let them dominate her.

She fully blames herself, while we the player, as well as Brad, both know, she will never ever brake the trust of her former girlfriend again. She is painfully close to her all the time (I mean you can hardly top that!), trying to maintain contact and friendship, maybe still hoping to get a second chance one day. On top of all that, she is even secretly helping her to find happiness in another relationship!

So I am really glad, this game is giving her more space with the inclusion, since for me her story is one of the most captivating parts of the game!

[JFR]

... for Brad, even with the original five, it wasn't possible to woo them all in a single play-through.

The heck with wooing, just having to deal with 12 women all in his life at once would be exhausting!

That was a joke, folks. I'm not a misogynist. Really!