Episode 7 start - hints and suggestions

[Morzan]

I do not know if its even possible to suggest something without listing the whole process, but if it is, I would really appreciate it.

There are a few parallel paths, but nothing longer.

Thanks but then I have to ask, what is the main factor for deciding which path gets taken? Other than

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keeping pants on/off during the dance, I always end up on the same one. Also, is there a way to trigger the ride home after u watch Natalie dance in the club?

[JFR]

... Thanks but then I have to ask, what is the main factor for deciding which path gets taken? Other than

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keeping pants on/off during the dance, I always end up on the same one. Also, is there a way to trigger the ride home after u watch Natalie dance in the club?

Starting with your second question first:

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No. The Taxi scene is part of the Azumi Inclsion and can only be triggered by meeting her at the Strip Club and accepting her invitation to go into the back room for a "private dance." Watching Natalie's dance at the Strip Club leads to a different set of paths that were partially explored in Chapters 5 and 6. There will be more on that set of paths coming in future episodes but they do not include the scenes from the Taxi and visit to Brad's Home.

Your other question is more complicated:

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There are many factors that affect what path(s) might become available for the Home scene after the Taxi ride. How you interacted with Candy, Azumi and Natalie before and during the private lap dance scenes. What you did or did not do during the Taxi ride, what relationship you built with Azumi or Natalie, whether you stayed zipped or unzipped from the lap dance, whether Natalie got turned on during the Taxi ride or got jealous of Brad and Azumi, how Brad responds during the conversation at the breakfast table, whether Brad keeps his pants on or off, when during the dance contest Brad decides to cum and with whom, and several other factors. There are at least 10 different paths through that scene. Many will have a positive or negative effect on what happens the next day between Brad, Azumi and Natalie.

[Yodeler]

This is definitely a challenging episode. On repeated replays I've identified numerous actions and conversation choices that I didn't expect would lead to a better outcome. I have really enjoyed the complexity and it has obviously kept pulling me back. But...I've reached the point where I am starting to feel stuck. I know Wolf doesn't believe in outright spoilers, but I feel like I've maximized the hints, he, JFR and other players have given and can't get to a previously described end-point of the dance and

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I've focused on Natalie and am reasonably confident that I've found a Natalie point-maximizing path. Found multiple paths to the Azumi whammy dance, the cab kiss and the third phase of the finale of the naked dance contest, but can't get a fourth or the sleeping together on the floor ending. I think I've either flipped a non-point assigned dialogue choice (don't know if that can diverge the path or not), need to choose a path that doesn't optimize points but still ends up with a better outcome or am just missing something. Would it be in total violation of the outright spoiler policy to give some hints about point ratios at certain points (exiting club, exiting cab, girls come back from bathroom) to at least help identify which scene to focus on?

[lurking]

Obvious mistake...

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You should think again about if paths equal points. Remember there is a second train on the track now.

[Crane]

Have you guys ever played minesweeper? Easy game, right? Just pay attention to the numbers. Now imagine minesweeper but without the numbers. And now imagine minesweeper without the numbers and if you step on a mine you don't get "game over" you just go till the end and then the game says "You failed! Somewhere during your sweep you stepped on a mine, but we won`t tell you which one was the mine!". Now that`s exactly how i feel.

First i never thought that i could even

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have sex with Candy

because i thought 8 was more than enough. lol. Not that i`m complaining.
But even after i read about that no matter how i tried i couldn`t get more than a lapdance. And then i read some clues... and i learned i was way off the track. Followed the clues, went a little further but still not till the end of ride. I have to retry. Again.

And then i learn that this is the "easy" one, because the taxi scene is "tricky" and "complex".

[Wolfschadowe]

Keep in mind, the scene is part of the Azumi Inclusion path so...

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...focusing on Natalie may not be the right approach.

Then again...

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Azumi isn't really interested in Brad.

Why not? Well...

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Azumi's personality doesn't magically change just because it's Episode 7. If you played the Natalie Corruption path from previous episodes,
and got to the campus scene, you will have better understanding of Azumi's behavior in this scene.

It is important to remember....

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Everyone has their own lives, backstories, agendas. It's not all about Brad. Azumi has a goal for the week also that she will be working towards. So does Natalie, and Emily and Faith, and everyone. If you don't interact with them, they will go on about their lives toward their goals, like Emily did if Brad went to the strip club. She still might have gone to the bar to find Brad.

For those who take the time to...

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...really dive into the story and try to understand everyone's motivations, then the overall game gets easier. There are clues to the new content in old content. There are clues to old content in the new content. Every path should help understand the women better, which makes interacting with them easier. For some of you, that might be a much more rewarding experience than simply mapping out the options. For others who enjoy the tedium of mapping out options (I know you're out there), then absolutely have fun with that!

Play the game in the way that you enjoy to play. There's no rush to beat it.

Regarding points...

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Sometimes you have to go backwards in order to go forwards.

The points for each girl measure your relationship with that woman, not your score for the game. It's important to understand the difference. Think about real relationships. If everything is positive, then it's a pretty simple, and unrealistic relationship.

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We all even argue and get upset with our best friends sometimes. That's part of what makes them our best friends because our relationships grow richer when we have both positive and negative experiences.

So instead of focusing on points, focus on...

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Building a good, solid relationship that has it's up's and downs.

This last bit about points represents the entire game, not just the latest Episode.

[moskys]

This is definitely a challenging episode. On repeated replays I've identified numerous actions and conversation choices that I didn't expect would lead to a better outcome. I have really enjoyed the complexity and it has obviously kept pulling me back. But...I've reached the point where I am starting to feel stuck. I know Wolf doesn't believe in outright spoilers, but I feel like I've maximized the hints, he, JFR and other players have given and can't get to a previously described end-point of the dance and

spoiler: show

I've focused on Natalie and am reasonably confident that I've found a Natalie point-maximizing path. Found multiple paths to the Azumi whammy dance, the cab kiss and the third phase of the finale of the naked dance contest, but can't get a fourth or the sleeping together on the floor ending. I think I've either flipped a non-point assigned dialogue choice (don't know if that can diverge the path or not), need to choose a path that doesn't optimize points but still ends up with a better outcome or am just missing something. Would it be in total violation of the outright spoiler policy to give some hints about point ratios at certain points (exiting club, exiting cab, girls come back from bathroom) to at least help identify which scene to focus on?

I don't know what do you mean by

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the third and fourth phases of the dance contest but there's a couple of things you should take into consideration before the dance scene if you want to get the floor ending. The main one is that after 7 episodes we already know that Natalie can feel Azumi's emotions, just like Brad. And a couple of times in the taxi scene the text clearly says that Brad feels lustful pulses coming from Azumi when he focus on her. We can be almost sure that Natalie feels them too. So it could be possible that the best way to multiplicate Natalie's desire (not points) while in the cab is increasing Azumi's desire... maybe that way she feels all that passion and decides to go on with something special for Brad, something she wouldn't do if she has just received a brief thigh massage by him. That said, at that critical point Natalie may prefer to not actually see what's really going on between Brad and Azumi

Then, at the dance contest, just think what you would do in real life to avoid a premature ending. As Brad says at some point during his lesson with Jasmine, one of the most importants points when cuddling a girl is timing

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In other words, stop and hold on when possible. If you've done the right things in the cab, you should be able to get the 3 pillows ending

[JFR]

... Followed the clues, went a little further but still not till the end of ride. I have to retry. Again.

Well, Wolfschadowe just gave a long list of general ideas for progressing in the game. Since your problem is more specific, maybe another hint, or at least a restating of the hints, will be in order.

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Did you start the Strip Club scene at the sofa with Azumi or stop someplace else first? If you think something might happen with Candy, should you not become friendly with her? At the beginning of the scene, she doesn't even remember Brad's name. Maybe you should change that before proceeding.

In BEW, Reputation points are as important as Relationship points. We see them change by the way scores go up for characters we haven't even met. There are, however, some characters who can be important to the overall "quest" who are not listed on the score panel at the top of the screen. Even though there is no way to follow their score, those side characters also have lives, interests and reactions to how they are treated. Why would Candy, or anybody else, want to "do a little extra" for someone she doesn't even know? In another scene from previous chapters, she helps Brad with Natalie because Brad helped her with her interest in Ben the bartender. In the new scene, that never happened so perhaps the player can find another way to help her and get her "on his side."

[Zimmerman]

Have you guys ever played minesweeper? Easy game, right? Just pay attention to the numbers. Now imagine minesweeper but without the numbers. And now imagine minesweeper without the numbers and if you step on a mine you don't get "game over" you just go till the end and then the game says "You failed! Somewhere during your sweep you stepped on a mine, but we won`t tell you which one was the mine!". Now that`s exactly how i feel.

That is the best description for how this game makes me feel sometimes as well haha. I'm not stuck where you are, rather the opposite.

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I got to the "sleep together" scene, which was dope and I loved it. But I know there are other endings to the lap dance that I just can't reach. It either finishes with Natalie "interrupting" Azumi or Brad getting off early. I'm guessing its something I missed in the cab, but again, I just can't find it. I feel like I've traced down every story thread and combination of options, but I'm stuck.

All of that being said, I absolutely love this game, and I present my frustration at not finding all of it as evidence.

[JFR]

That is the best description for how this game makes me feel sometimes as well haha. I'm not stuck where you are, rather the opposite.

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I got to the "sleep together" scene, which was dope and I loved it. But I know there are other endings to the lap dance that I just can't reach. It either finishes with Natalie "interrupting" Azumi or Brad getting off early. I'm guessing its something I missed in the cab, but again, I just can't find it. I feel like I've traced down every story thread and combination of options, but I'm stuck.

All of that being said, I absolutely love this game, and I present my frustration at not finding all of it as evidence.

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Many of the possible outcomes are set either in the Azumi/Natalie/Candy private dance or in the Taxi. By the time you get to Brad's apartment, some paths are already blocked and others are opened. If you have seen what some are calling the "3-pillow" ending but not other endings, you can see others by NOT choosing actions that lead there. Zipped/unzipped makes a difference. Natalie's state of arousal or anger makes a huge difference. There are others.

You say you know there are other endings you can't reach. If you are talking about the conversations that take place in Brad's living room with all 3 seated on the couches, there is a bug that interferes with that path. A patch will be coming to fix that and make those conversations available.

[FelixKJ]

What can you do with Jasmine?

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I cuddle with her on the chair, and I received a phone call to have a date with her in future episodes, but I think there is something that I missing.

Also I have a doubt with this quote

So instead of focusing on points, focus on...

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Building a good, solid relationship that has it's up's and downs.

If that is true, What is the reason of having the points for the game?
I always consider points as a help, or clue that you are going to the correct path to achieve something. But if that is not true, then is a help that you cannot trust, so there is no point to have it.

[JFR]

What can you do with Jasmine?

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I cuddle with her on the chair, and I received a phone call to have a date with her in future episodes, but I think there is something that I missing.

Aside from the two scenes you have mentioned, there is one other area you might find new experiences with her:

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On a completely different path, the scene in the bathroom at the office with Emily has been expanded to include some additional fantasy material.

[Crane]

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Keep in mind, the scene is part of the Azumi Inclusion path so...

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...focusing on Natalie may not be the right approach.

Then again...

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Azumi isn't really interested in Brad.

Why not? Well...

spoiler: show

Azumi's personality doesn't magically change just because it's Episode 7. If you played the Natalie Corruption path from previous episodes,
and got to the campus scene, you will have better understanding of Azumi's behavior in this scene.

It is important to remember....

spoiler: show

Everyone has their own lives, backstories, agendas. It's not all about Brad. Azumi has a goal for the week also that she will be working towards. So does Natalie, and Emily and Faith, and everyone. If you don't interact with them, they will go on about their lives toward their goals, like Emily did if Brad went to the strip club. She still might have gone to the bar to find Brad.

For those who take the time to...

spoiler: show

...really dive into the story and try to understand everyone's motivations, then the overall game gets easier. There are clues to the new content in old content. There are clues to old content in the new content. Every path should help understand the women better, which makes interacting with them easier. For some of you, that might be a much more rewarding experience than simply mapping out the options. For others who enjoy the tedium of mapping out options (I know you're out there), then absolutely have fun with that!

Play the game in the way that you enjoy to play. There's no rush to beat it.

Regarding points...

spoiler: show

Sometimes you have to go backwards in order to go forwards.

The points for each girl measure your relationship with that woman, not your score for the game. It's important to understand the difference. Think about real relationships. If everything is positive, then it's a pretty simple, and unrealistic relationship.

spoiler: show

We all even argue and get upset with our best friends sometimes. That's part of what makes them our best friends because our relationships grow richer when we have both positive and negative experiences.

So instead of focusing on points, focus on...

spoiler: show

Building a good, solid relationship that has it's up's and downs.

This last bit about points represents the entire game, not just the latest Episode.

Wolf, come on man. We have this Brad guy who has like 10 moods... "romantic", "pushy", "perv", "manipulator", "seducer", "womanizer", ""gentleman" "try but fail to be gentleman" etc. And since you don'`t know which one of them will lead you to the new scenes you not only have to try them all but also you have to combine two or more of them and the combination must occur in specific timing on a specific scale or you`re out of the path. Not to mention the "secret points".

So, yes i know Azumi`s intentions but the bitch is really hard get tricked.

Now, all these make sense. In RL we are all those things and we do all those things and we know these kinds of people... ok not elves or psycho-psychis but i mean manipulative bitches but that doesn`t make the game easier.

I finally got more than a lapdance on the club... but i`m far from reaching the scenes on the cab so eventualy i miss the good stuff in Brad`s home too.

Now i think the problem starts in the club. Because there is a hint that

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when Natalie gives you a lapdance before Candy takes her place,
she gives you more than a hug. I get only a hug

. I think this part screws up the cab scene and so on.
So what i`m doing wrong here.

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I talk to Candy and i reach 6 friendship points.

[Wolfschadowe]

What is the reason of having the points for the game?

That's a great observation, and At first I didn't show the points at all in hard mode, mainly for the reasons you're describing. While they do represent the strength of a relationship on a path, they don't measure the strength of a relationship in general. The relationship strength is represented by a min/max value for the path. So a relationship score of 70 on a 70/80 min/max scale would be bad, while on a different path, a relationship of 25 on a 19/25 min/max would be excellent, and a relationship of 44 on a 40/46 min/max would be good.

But players don't have access to that Min/Max. That info is all held in the Master Model.

TLDR; Score trend over 20 pages or so is a good indicator. Score change from one page to the next...not so good. Pay more attention to reactions in text and images.

[Crane]

What can you do with Jasmine?

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I cuddle with her on the chair, and I received a phone call to have a date with her in future episodes, but I think there is something that I missing.

Aside from the two scenes you have mentioned, there is one other area you might find new experiences with her:

spoiler: show

On a completely different path, the scene in the bathroom at the office with Emily has been expanded to include some additional fantasy material.

I did try this path.

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I got only a pic of J. which was Brad`s fantasy, Is that all?